Edit Komentar Anda
Do you know if there is a list
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Feb 22, 2011
4573 postingan
Dec 03, 2018 at 15:54
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Feb 22, 2011
4573 postingan
of brokers and the percentage of traders losing money with them?
I believe the average is about 75% but today I have seen ad for broker who advertise 86% of the traders is losing money with that broker :)
Isn't it appealing to join?
I believe the average is about 75% but today I have seen ad for broker who advertise 86% of the traders is losing money with that broker :)
Isn't it appealing to join?
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Dec 04, 2018
7 postingan
Dec 04, 2018 at 10:59
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Dec 04, 2018
7 postingan
I can't remember the location but I am sure that I saw something about this on an EU page related to the new ESMA regulation
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Feb 22, 2011
4573 postingan
Dec 04, 2018 at 11:27
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Feb 22, 2011
4573 postingan
Amancio posted:
I can't remember the location but I am sure that I saw something about this on an EU page related to the new ESMA regulation
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=800745
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Sep 29, 2016
255 postingan
Dec 04, 2018 at 12:14
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Sep 29, 2016
255 postingan
ESMA has been a bit unfair as these numbers do not show the real picture behind the scenes.
They portray only the Retail trader statistics, so say in a brokerage there is 900 Clients that had €100 or less accounts and they lost their money (Highly likely scenario), and another 100 with larger Balances who have broken even/made a profit, by ESMA regulation the broker must state that 90% of traders lose money with this broker.
In another scenario a broker may have 100 professional Clients that are profitable, and only 100 or so retail traders that have lost their funds trading, this again would show that 100% traders lose money with this broker.
I believe other metrics such as Best Execution, Broker Capitalisation and reputation of broker are better gauges of broker reliability rather than the trader metrics that ESMA brokers have to show at the bottom of their websites.
They portray only the Retail trader statistics, so say in a brokerage there is 900 Clients that had €100 or less accounts and they lost their money (Highly likely scenario), and another 100 with larger Balances who have broken even/made a profit, by ESMA regulation the broker must state that 90% of traders lose money with this broker.
In another scenario a broker may have 100 professional Clients that are profitable, and only 100 or so retail traders that have lost their funds trading, this again would show that 100% traders lose money with this broker.
I believe other metrics such as Best Execution, Broker Capitalisation and reputation of broker are better gauges of broker reliability rather than the trader metrics that ESMA brokers have to show at the bottom of their websites.
ourmyfxbook@
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Feb 22, 2011
4573 postingan
Dec 04, 2018 at 12:20
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Feb 22, 2011
4573 postingan
L3CAP posted:
ESMA has been a bit unfair as these numbers do not show the real picture behind the scenes.
They portray only the Retail trader statistics, so say in a brokerage there is 900 Clients that had €100 or less accounts and they lost their money (Highly likely scenario), and another 100 with larger Balances who have broken even/made a profit, by ESMA regulation the broker must state that 90% of traders lose money with this broker.
In another scenario a broker may have 100 professional Clients that are profitable, and only 100 or so retail traders that have lost their funds trading, this again would show that 100% traders lose money with this broker.
I believe other metrics such as Best Execution, Broker Capitalisation and reputation of broker are better gauges of broker reliability rather than the trader metrics that ESMA brokers have to show at the bottom of their websites.
Even though you are right the number shown is very good indicator for retail trader. As I suppose the overall skill of traders is the same at ll brokers then the loss is caused by broker conditions not trader skills.
So theoretically you should be the most profitable with the broker with the lowest number of failing traders.
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Sep 29, 2016
255 postingan
Dec 04, 2018 at 12:26
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Sep 29, 2016
255 postingan
But what about say a broker that accepts smaller deposits by retail traders? These accounts are likely to bust and give the broker a high losing score Vs a broker who may have a larger deposit requirements and their Clients are less likely to lose with bigger Balance (And the max 30:1 leverage).
Also the leverage cap is very recent and I believe after 1 year of having max leverage 30:1, it will be harder for retail Clients to lose their money, and subsequently the scoring of broker will probably improve.
Also the leverage cap is very recent and I believe after 1 year of having max leverage 30:1, it will be harder for retail Clients to lose their money, and subsequently the scoring of broker will probably improve.
ourmyfxbook@
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Feb 22, 2011
4573 postingan
Dec 04, 2018 at 12:29
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Feb 22, 2011
4573 postingan
L3CAP posted:
But what about say a broker that accepts smaller deposits by retail traders? These accounts are likely to bust and give the broker a high losing score Vs a broker who may have a larger deposit requirements and their Clients are less likely to lose with bigger Balance (And the max 30:1 leverage).
Also the leverage cap is very recent and I believe after 1 year of having max leverage 30:1, it will be harder for retail Clients to lose their money, and subsequently the scoring of broker will probably improve.
Well trading small account under 1k should bring the same risk/profit as big account.
That is all the matter of risk mgmt.
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Sep 29, 2016
255 postingan
Dec 04, 2018 at 12:35
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Sep 29, 2016
255 postingan
togr posted:L3CAP posted:
But what about say a broker that accepts smaller deposits by retail traders? These accounts are likely to bust and give the broker a high losing score Vs a broker who may have a larger deposit requirements and their Clients are less likely to lose with bigger Balance (And the max 30:1 leverage).
Also the leverage cap is very recent and I believe after 1 year of having max leverage 30:1, it will be harder for retail Clients to lose their money, and subsequently the scoring of broker will probably improve.
Well trading small account under 1k should bring the same risk/profit as big account.
That is all the matter of risk mgmt.
Risk Management is another subject for discussion 😄 Maybe ESMA should have been issuing circulars and directives on that!
ourmyfxbook@
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Feb 22, 2011
4573 postingan
Dec 04, 2018 at 13:11
(diedit Dec 04, 2018 at 13:11 yang lalu)
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Feb 22, 2011
4573 postingan
L3CAP posted:togr posted:L3CAP posted:
But what about say a broker that accepts smaller deposits by retail traders? These accounts are likely to bust and give the broker a high losing score Vs a broker who may have a larger deposit requirements and their Clients are less likely to lose with bigger Balance (And the max 30:1 leverage).
Also the leverage cap is very recent and I believe after 1 year of having max leverage 30:1, it will be harder for retail Clients to lose their money, and subsequently the scoring of broker will probably improve.
Well trading small account under 1k should bring the same risk/profit as big account.
That is all the matter of risk mgmt.
Risk Management is another subject for discussion 😄 Maybe ESMA should have been issuing circulars and directives on that!
Well they tried.
As with low leverage you cannot put big trades on small account.
So in order to get good profit you need either to deposit more thus risk more
or go offshore and risk it all :)
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Jan 03, 2018
150 postingan
Dec 10, 2018 at 15:05
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Jan 03, 2018
150 postingan
very interesting ,thanks for this thread
nick123427@
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Aug 27, 2017
875 postingan
Dec 24, 2018 at 13:20
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Aug 27, 2017
875 postingan
Basically I avoid high voltage news sessions like NFP, FOMC! As a result, most of the time I don’t face slippage problem. No doubt, it’s an irritating issue.
keeping patience.......
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Apr 18, 2017
659 postingan
Apr 30, 2019 at 17:18
Menjadi Anggota Sejak Apr 18, 2017
659 postingan
Hi Nice; you are talking about good brokers business policy; but you may know, market maker brokers are playing with different game plan.
*Penggunaan komersial dan spam tidak akan ditoleransi dan dapat mengakibatkan penutupan akun.
Tips: Memposting URL gambar/YouTube akan otomatis menyematkannya di postingan Anda!
Tips: Ketik tanda @ untuk melengkapi nama pengguna secara otomatis yang berpartisipasi dalam diskusi ini.